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Scope usage experience and reviews

Scope usage experience and reviews

PostAuthor: ai » Tue Sep 27, 2016 10:30 pm

Starting this thread as lot of members on TGG have experience with using scopes on rifle and PCPs/springers. There are too few feedbacks, opinions or reviews for a newbee to make a choice based on first hand experience.

So please list the scopes you may have used or handled. Please highlight their pros and cons, with detailed reviews where possible.
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Re: Scope usage experience and reviews

PostAuthor: jatindeo » Tue Sep 27, 2016 11:05 pm

Hi ai ,

This is a thread I was looking for but saw just after posting my new thread on the dampa mount ! (You can merge it with this thread )
viewtopic.php?f=37&t=15879
(I might just have posted it in the wrong section )
I have used :

BSA sweet 16 4x12-40 with trajectory compensation for .17 hmr :Loaned to a friend for a .22 LR usage for couple of days and worked perfectly ,is now back with me.Not for springers. Waiting for a pcp !

UTG Bug Buster mini 3x9-32 (Springer rated but a pain in the ass eye relief ,better used with a compensating mount and that too on a pcp because minimum clamping area of a compensating mount will cause creep ): Used this on the Precihole guns SX and NX.

Daina 3x32 magnum plus : Intend to use shortly

Few cheap 4x20 ,2-8x20 cheap stuff used on Preciholes and did what the were supposed to do for whatever they are worth .

All are chinese stuff and none failed so far !

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Scope usage experience and reviews

PostAuthor: MAmjad » Thu Sep 29, 2016 1:26 pm

Nikko Sterling Mount Maser 3-9x32.
Airgun rated, Clear optics, holds zero, Mil-dot reticle good value for the price. Mil-dot calibration with chair gun pro gave 98% close value.
Centre Point 3-9x42. Bought used and it's a crap don't recommend.
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Re: Scope usage experience and reviews

PostAuthor: ai » Thu Sep 29, 2016 1:36 pm

Here are some of my experiences. I'll list only those scopes that are still available or their latest model is.

1. MTC Viper Connect 3-12*32- the best scope for PCP. No shortcomings except slightly heavy.

2. MTC Viper Connect 3-12*24- sleeker than above, but image not as sharp.

3. MTC Viper/Mamba/Taipan- Hawkes better in all respects. Heavy. The new models seem good but are heavy. Yet to see them. MTC Genesis UL 3-9x40 is a light scope with AMD reticle. Parallax is resettable by user, but difficult to adjust accurately and keep track of by us laymen. Reviews of zero shifting are also there on internet.

4. Hawke Tac30 6.5-20*42- Superb Optics. Review on TGG. Very heavy.

5. Hawke Airmax- old model not too good. New models excellent. In AO models, only a ring, not entire objective turns, so can use flip up covers. Hawke Panorama is also good.

6. Hawke Vantage- good value for money. Lenses ok, image yellowish.

7. Hawke Frontier- mind blowing features. Yet to see through one, but a friend in UK says its amazing. Stephen Walker, head of Hawke says (in email to me) that its better than any other scope for the money, including the big names.

8. Leupold VX1 and Rifleman- Avoid.

9. Leupold VX2 and Mark AR- very good lenses, very light. But no suitable reticles except mildot for airgun use. Seen through VX2 3-9*33 EFR Fine Duplex. Very good. Will get one for my light PCP.

10. Leupold Mark 4 LR 10x mildot- very very good.

11. Ziess Conquest 4.5-14*40 Z800 reticle- best glass Ive seen. Reticle too thick for airgun use.

12. SWFA Classic fixed power mil quad reticle- excellent value for money. Parallax adjustment from 10 yards and the rear/eyepiece side turns. Unique.

13. Redfield Battlezone- apparently no longer available. Narrow field of view. Quite average.

14. Redfield Revolution Tac- Amazing optics. Revolution optics are better that VX2. No parallax adjustment, and cluttered MOA based reticle make it unsuitable for PCPs.

15. Redfield Revolution- As light as Leupolds. Better value for money that VX2. Wish they make a model suitable for airguns.

16. Nikko Sterling Target Master 1.5-5x20- http://www.uttings.co.uk/p116582-nikko- ... zAVih97IU- Only scope I know of in 1" tube with no objective bell, with mil dot reticle. Good optics. Sleek. Good for anyone wanting low power.

17. Falcon Menace 1.5-5x- http://www.uttings.co.uk/p106568-falcon ... -zAySh97IU Another low magnification scope with mil based reticle but in 30mm tube. Good optics.

18. Leatherwood Hilux CMR 1-4x24- 30mm tube, with an excellent reticle. However, constant price increases means it is no longer a good value for money (VFM) proposition. http://www.opticsplanet.com/leatherwood ... ticle.html

19. Hakko- Inconsistent quality control, erratic availablity best avoided.

20. Bushnell Elite 2.5-15x40/50 mil dot- good because it has side focus from 10 yards, mil dot reticle. Optic quality not worth the money- Hawke Tac30 surpassed this in comparion (see review on TGG).

21. Bushnell Legend 14/15x mil dot- Once were preffered for airguns. Now doubtful VFM proposition. Bushnell is surpassed by Hawke etc. Same for Trophy and other models.

22. Nikon Prostaff Rimfire II- very good VFM. Excellent optics. Lightweight. Like Leupold, has negligible tunnel view effect. Ive handled a Monarch series scope too and it was impressive as well.

23. Vortex Diamondback HP 2-8x32 BDC reticle- side focus from 20 yards (which is rare- 1" tubes rarely have side focus). Very good for LR and airguns, but its long eye relief makes it unsuitable for some. Optics can be a lot better.

24. Burris Fullfield E1 2-7x35- http://swfa.com/Burris-2-7x35-Fullfield ... 8174.aspx- Good optics, but not like Leupold. Reticle too thick for airgunning, excellent for rifles.
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Re: Scope usage experience and reviews

PostAuthor: ai » Thu Sep 29, 2016 1:37 pm

MAmjad wrote:Nikko Sterling Mount Maser 3-9x32.
Airgun rated, Clear optics, holds zero, Mil-dot reticle good value for the price. Mil-dot calibration with chair gun pro gave 98% close value.
Centre Point 3-9x42. Bought used and it's a crap don't recommend.
Seriously planning for an upgrade.
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Re: Scope usage experience and reviews

PostAuthor: PureTactical » Thu Mar 09, 2017 9:03 pm

I have always had a soft spot for Bushnell. Especially their Legend and Elite range. Works without any fuss on magnum springers. The 40mm objective is plenty bright and offers very clear and sharp optics.

But my all time favorite is an MTC Mamba 3-12 x 44. Was a gift from a friend.
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Re: Scope usage experience and reviews

PostAuthor: ai » Thu Mar 09, 2017 9:07 pm

Ok. Pl see comparison review I made long back between an Elite 6500 and Hawke Tac30. Hawke has upped its quality since. Probably Bushnell has too. A friend Ranjith who has used Hawke Frontier was floored by it's quality.
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Re: Scope usage experience and reviews

PostAuthor: PureTactical » Thu Mar 09, 2017 9:41 pm

Yeah Hawke has really upped their game. All my scopes are over 5 years old, so I'm not sure if Bushnell has slipped since. Hawke, Leupold and Swarovski are common contenders in most FT meets across UK. Have you heard of scope company called Kahles? They make some good scopes too. Again 5 year old info, could've gone tits up since.

I had used a Leapers once. Can't remember the specs. That scope was lot of bang for the buck. Didn't really have the tank like feeling of the Legend, but still quite nice.
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Re: Scope usage experience and reviews

PostAuthor: ai » Fri Mar 10, 2017 9:57 am

Leapers are quite heavy, and lens quality is average. Good for the budget price.

Kahles used to make their Competition series in 30mm and were well priced. Now they are in 34mm I think, and very expensive.
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Re: Scope usage experience and reviews

PostAuthor: PureTactical » Mon Mar 13, 2017 6:03 pm

Not sure how heavy the Leapers was. It was mounted on a Diana 54, which in itself weighed as much as a small car I'd imagine. I didn't find the optics lacking by much honestly. The reticle was nice and thin (I remember this) and the magnification and brightness was good (I think)

I mentioned Kahles as one of the gentlemen in the group had a full custom Daystate FT setup with it mounted. It had a multi colour laminate stock and the works. He had spent an astronomical sum to get it setup the way he wanted, which was 'ugly and dead accurate' I suppose. He also rocked an Aeron Chameleon. The only ever time I'd seen it. I hated the rifle for the way it looked, but not the way it shot. But hey, that credit should go to the shooter. Anyways, the scope seemed great when I tried it.
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